WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.140 The following is a somewhat technical presentation covering the recent evolution of counter-drone 00:06.140 --> 00:09.400 and counter-counter-drone technology. 00:09.820 --> 00:15.880 This talk will focus on the emergence of low-cost, weaponized, unmanned aerial vehicles that 00:15.880 --> 00:20.120 have directly, literally, impacted this region. 00:20.640 --> 00:27.260 The starting point is, as always, the economics driving the rapid advancement and proliferation 00:27.740 --> 00:34.100 of militarized drone systems, both drones and anti, before moving on to an overview 00:34.100 --> 00:39.700 of recent technological developments, mostly from the Russo-Ukrainian War, and how those 00:39.700 --> 00:44.700 are proliferating globally as they are proven and productized on the battlefield. 00:45.280 --> 00:52.540 In state-level conflicts, at least among cost-constrained states, larger Class II and III drones have 00:52.540 --> 00:58.340 become dominant players, delivering the vast majority of munitions to targets, an extraordinary 00:58.340 --> 01:01.280 development in just three years of conflict. 01:01.920 --> 01:07.840 The first broadly successful state-level low-cost drone system was the Iranian Shahid series, 01:07.840 --> 01:13.520 particularly the 136, introduced in 2021, a mere five years ago. 01:13.540 --> 01:19.560 It, and systems like it, offer a nearly two orders of magnitude cost reduction, compared 01:19.560 --> 01:25.620 to similar per-mission costs for legacy delivery platforms, and provide an order of magnitude 01:25.620 --> 01:31.860 more cost-effective method of delivering payload than traditional theater ballistic missiles. 01:31.980 --> 01:39.300 While it is far easier to intercept a low, slow drone than a TBM, the 100-to-1 cost advantage 01:39.300 --> 01:44.400 will almost always win out in economic or strategic analysis. 01:44.440 --> 01:49.120 For non-state actors, the transformation has been even more remarkable. 01:49.120 --> 01:54.460 Ultra-low-cost consumer or consumer-derived drones, which are functionally differentiated 01:54.460 --> 02:00.800 from designed as arms drones by, among other things, shorter range, typically only 5 to 02:00.800 --> 02:05.840 10 kilometers, but still, they were early game-changers for ISIS in Iraq, starting around 02:05.840 --> 02:07.200 2016. 02:07.480 --> 02:12.720 They enabled attacks well behind lines, at trivial cost, and vastly reduced risk compared 02:12.720 --> 02:17.940 to that old insurgent standby, bongo trucks, with Katayusha conversions. 02:18.300 --> 02:23.740 As RF links have become more exploitable, the cost of attacking protected targets for 02:23.740 --> 02:25.720 insurgents has increased. 02:25.720 --> 02:30.260 But almost no critical infrastructure targets are protected, yet. 02:31.000 --> 02:37.460 More advanced drones, such as those using long-range radios, LTE, GPS, or vision-based 02:37.460 --> 02:42.760 targeting, increasingly provide insurgents with the ability to strike transnational targets 02:42.760 --> 02:50.040 accurately and with nearly zero retribution risk, and at trivial cost, which vastly expands 02:50.040 --> 02:52.740 their rational targeting options. 02:52.740 --> 02:58.440 Most civil defense systems are built around a platform consisting of radar, camera, and 02:58.440 --> 03:03.900 a jammer, and possibly a software-defined radio for RF detection, usually mounted on 03:03.900 --> 03:07.380 a single pole: stuff on a stick. 03:08.180 --> 03:11.140 Radar remains the core detection technology. 03:11.140 --> 03:15.440 It is proven, practical, reliable, and mostly weather-immune. 03:15.560 --> 03:20.460 The maximum range of the smaller radar systems typically used for counter-UAS, is usually 03:20.460 --> 03:25.160 limited to about 5 kilometers or so, with some models claiming up to twice that. 03:25.160 --> 03:33.300 The standard target is always a DJI Phantom 4, a phantom for an RCS of 0.01, the equivalent 03:33.300 --> 03:38.020 of a flat metal target of about 10 by 10 centimeters square. 03:38.020 --> 03:43.540 Proliferation of stealth coatings will increasingly compromise radar range. 03:43.800 --> 03:45.640 The radar equation is brutal. 03:46.040 --> 03:51.960 R squared times R squared is R to the fourth, so it takes 16 times better signal to noise 03:51.960 --> 03:57.320 to double the range of a radar system, and any reduction in return signal is multiplied 03:57.320 --> 03:58.560 by four. 03:58.900 --> 04:03.420 Therefore, stealth tech is very effective at hiding drones from radar. 04:04.140 --> 04:09.920 Electro-optics provide visual verification and confirmation of threat and type. 04:09.980 --> 04:14.340 There has been less rapid development in camera technology, and they are pretty standard. 04:14.340 --> 04:19.440 A typical package includes a high-zoom visible-light camera and normally a second camera operating 04:19.440 --> 04:24.560 in a thermal range, which is particularly useful at night and through moderate obscurants 04:24.560 --> 04:26.720 like smoke or dust. 04:27.560 --> 04:33.660 Jammers may be of the low-cost barrage style, which tend to interfere with blue force comms, 04:33.660 --> 04:38.780 or reactive type, which are more expensive but do generally preserve blue team comms. 04:38.800 --> 04:43.120 Omnidirectional units are good for area coverage, while directional tracking units have much 04:43.120 --> 04:46.980 greater jamming range, but must be mounted on a PT platform. 04:48.120 --> 04:54.000 The electronic warfare platform in a modern battlespace is an RF disco party, so most 04:54.000 --> 04:59.160 attack drones now escape EW with countermeasures like controlled radiation pattern GPS antennas 04:59.160 --> 05:01.600 or by fiber-link control. 05:01.600 --> 05:06.820 Even so, jammers remain essential elements of any defensive strategy, if at all possible 05:06.820 --> 05:08.100 to deploy. 05:08.300 --> 05:12.960 Radio direction finding equipment is becoming a must-have add-on. 05:12.980 --> 05:17.860 Short-range systems, like the Kraken SDR, are cost-effective upgrades. 05:17.860 --> 05:24.400 Very long-range, highly capable, time-difference of arrival systems are far from low-cost, 05:24.400 --> 05:30.340 and even they can't track RF silent drones running on GPS or those targeting by AI vision 05:30.340 --> 05:31.360 mapping. 05:31.360 --> 05:37.260 Still, they can do some serious, extremely long-range tracking magic when they do work. 05:37.440 --> 05:43.380 AI-based analytics developments are improving false positive and negative rates by cross-correlating 05:43.380 --> 05:47.920 detection modalities, and can perform some very impressive tricks pulling signals out 05:47.920 --> 05:48.940 of noise. 05:49.260 --> 05:54.960 The core analytics stuff is a SMOP, a simple matter of programming, and so it is advancing 05:54.960 --> 05:56.460 fairly quickly. 05:57.300 --> 06:03.340 There is an ongoing proliferation of counter-drone technology to address the threat of armed drones. 06:03.640 --> 06:09.620 Each category has specific strengths and weaknesses that make them suitable, or not, for particular 06:09.620 --> 06:10.920 applications. 06:10.920 --> 06:16.640 Jammers are a core system, and will typically be proposed as part of any C-UAS strategy. 06:16.800 --> 06:22.260 They can block FPV drone command signals and operate our video feeds out to several kilometers, 06:22.260 --> 06:26.560 and are quite effective at jamming GPS signals, which are deep in the noise floor anyway 06:26.560 --> 06:28.620 by the time they get to Earth. 06:29.040 --> 06:35.000 Jammers are so effective and ubiquitous that CRPA, fiber control, and even Starlink are 06:35.000 --> 06:36.980 becoming default options. 06:36.980 --> 06:42.500 Interceptor drones are emerging as highly capable and justifiable defense strategy. 06:42.580 --> 06:44.280 They do have real limitations. 06:44.540 --> 06:46.480 Detection ranges tend to be short. 06:46.480 --> 06:52.880 An incoming suicide drone, flying at 300 kilometers an hour, and detected 5 kilometers out, has 06:52.880 --> 06:58.260 a one-minute warning, giving a very short detect, verify, and launch window. 06:58.440 --> 07:04.040 If the defender isn't launched from between the incoming drone and its target, intercept 07:04.040 --> 07:05.980 probability isn't great. 07:05.980 --> 07:11.920 Even the fastest interceptors, which are now exceeding 350 kilometers an hour, can't touch 07:11.920 --> 07:17.240 emerging jet-powered drones that cruise at 500 kilometers an hour. 07:17.600 --> 07:24.940 Kinetic kill models, with non-explosive smack-em style, are quite a reasonable balance of capability, 07:24.940 --> 07:30.420 cost, and most importantly, collateral risk for critical infrastructure use. 07:31.040 --> 07:34.380 Emerging, Ukrainian-made models are quite affordable. 07:34.380 --> 07:39.540 It is just amazing every time a firearm proves successful at defeating an incoming drone. 07:39.700 --> 07:45.120 People do get them with their AKs, and good on them, but it isn't a viable defensive strategy. 07:45.160 --> 07:49.960 AI-powered remote weapons stations are an interesting development, but extremely risky 07:49.960 --> 07:52.040 for most civilian stations. 07:52.580 --> 07:57.100 Tracking and targeting advancements are very much worth watching, even if still priced 07:57.100 --> 08:00.760 and regulated out of a lot of civilian defense applications. 08:01.340 --> 08:07.900 One of the few, accurate, relatively symmetrically priced rockets is the APKWS II, but it is 08:07.900 --> 08:11.820 laser-guided, meaning the target has to be locked and visible. 08:12.460 --> 08:17.560 Rocket-repelled, guided systems have not yet been treated to the same cost curve as drones, 08:17.560 --> 08:19.140 but watch this space. 08:19.280 --> 08:25.100 Microwaves hold some promise, but they are expensive, short-range, risky, and can be 08:25.100 --> 08:30.480 cheaply shielded against, with mu-metal shields, like were commonly used in old CRT-era 08:30.480 --> 08:32.320 desktop speakers. 08:32.320 --> 08:37.080 However, the cost-benefit and mass-targeting capability is tempting. 08:37.080 --> 08:41.500 Destructive lasers are promising, but remain extremely expensive. 08:41.500 --> 08:47.200 They are also intrinsically capable of rather horrific collateral damage, and multi-kilowatt 08:47.200 --> 08:51.020 battlefield laser systems are a proliferation risk. 08:51.020 --> 08:56.060 For now, they remain expensive and not well-suited to civilian applications. 08:56.060 --> 09:02.320 Blinding, or dazzling lasers, are a whole different category of cost, risk, and capability. 09:02.920 --> 09:07.840 They can't drop a drone out of the air, but it is possible to blind the imaging sensors, 09:07.840 --> 09:13.840 such that AI-controlled or FPV-operator-controlled drones can't see their targets. 09:14.140 --> 09:19.180 As an add-on defensive measure, they have a good cost-benefit ratio and are light enough 09:19.180 --> 09:22.080 to ride on most camera PT platforms. 09:22.600 --> 09:28.460 A few areas of particularly rapid progress have emerged, mostly out of the Russo-Ukrainian 09:28.460 --> 09:34.040 War, and are rewriting the effectiveness of any C-UAS strategy. 09:34.060 --> 09:41.700 One of the first to emerge, as the EW space became chaotic, was the CRPA GPS antenna, 09:41.700 --> 09:48.020 which used clever maths to zero out EW sources and amplify GPS SAT signals. 09:48.020 --> 09:52.940 They are effective, but remain expensive, $5,000 to $20,000 each. 09:53.140 --> 09:59.720 They depend on beefy processors, like a TI DSP or Xilinx FPGA, to do signal processing 09:59.720 --> 10:01.540 magic in real time. 10:01.800 --> 10:07.520 That such processors are reaching certain markets is an open proliferation issue. 10:07.760 --> 10:13.740 Fiber links run on naked half-millimeter diameter glass, now shrinking to a quarter for better 10:13.740 --> 10:15.700 range and more payload. 10:15.700 --> 10:23.080 Early models, way back in November 2024, had 10-kilometer spools and could unreal at 50-kilometers 10:23.080 --> 10:24.220 an hour. 10:24.720 --> 10:31.020 By mid-2025, the state-of-the-art was 20-kilometer range and 70-kilometers an hour. 10:31.020 --> 10:37.060 And now, in 2026, they run 60-kilometers at 120-kilometers an hour. 10:37.060 --> 10:42.380 This capability has proven frontline-critical and is evolving insanely quickly. 10:42.380 --> 10:47.820 At the same time, EW proliferation has pushed transceivers to just about every frequency 10:47.820 --> 10:52.660 that can carry useful data, from a few megahertz to over 12 gigahertz. 10:52.660 --> 10:59.220 Just this month, a Russian drone was found carrying a 6.1 to 7.2 gigahertz up-converter, 10:59.220 --> 11:04.740 which puts its COM links just outside most compact drone detector ranges, as those rely 11:04.740 --> 11:09.400 on SDRs, like to hack RF, with 6 gigahertz maximum. 11:09.400 --> 11:15.120 However, starting at about 5 to 6 gigahertz, atmospheric losses really start to impact 11:15.120 --> 11:18.520 usable range, so this won't go on forever. 11:19.180 --> 11:26.000 Starlink has become increasingly operationalized and is effective because EW can't reach LEO. 11:26.400 --> 11:33.420 An antenna looking up means not seeing ground-based EW emitters, nor can ground-based RF detectors 11:33.420 --> 11:34.900 find them. 11:34.900 --> 11:39.280 Because Starlink minis were expensive and hard for Russia to source, they are mostly 11:39.280 --> 11:43.000 used on ISR drones that would usually come back. 11:43.200 --> 11:47.720 But in the last few months, they've been found on one-way drones, like Shaheds. 11:47.720 --> 11:52.940 These should not be available at such volumes to antagonists as the satellites know the 11:52.940 --> 11:57.840 real-time position of each receiver, that a sanctioned country is successfully flying 11:57.840 --> 12:03.900 drones from sanctioned territory into the heart of an ally has implications. 12:04.900 --> 12:10.740 AI vision systems started with a lot of promise, even delaying fiber-optic development in Ukraine 12:10.740 --> 12:14.400 as resources were put into refining AI models. 12:14.520 --> 12:20.460 After some initial success with OpenCV, they were, however, slow to operationalize and 12:20.460 --> 12:24.360 are only now becoming reliable at consumer-ish costs. 12:24.660 --> 12:30.820 Running on NVIDIA Jetsons, mostly, and with rapidly improving CNN-based vision detection 12:30.820 --> 12:36.120 and tracking software, like BoT-SORT, which is an open-source tracking library that's 12:36.120 --> 12:41.440 designed to recognize and track targets from moving platforms, and they can run very well 12:41.440 --> 12:48.840 on something like a Sakura II M.2 gumstick with 16GB of RAM and 30 teraflops that cost 12:48.840 --> 12:52.680 just $400 and weighs only 10 grams. 12:52.860 --> 12:57.520 Stealth is an interesting development, with initial reports out of Russia, then China, 12:57.520 --> 13:03.160 of low-cost, iron-based coatings that are durable enough for one-way use and may reduce 13:03.160 --> 13:07.380 the RCS of a drone by 10 or even 100 times. 13:07.560 --> 13:12.840 India and Iran have both recently made announcements, while China has recently announced a new 13:12.840 --> 13:18.560 graphene-based coating that is definitely way more expensive, but still likely a massive 13:18.560 --> 13:20.880 bargain compared to U.S. systems. 13:21.080 --> 13:25.660 These will become more and more ubiquitous on a mid- to high-end one-way platforms. 13:25.660 --> 13:30.600 So, what does reasonable civilian defense architecture look like? 13:30.720 --> 13:36.260 Layered defense is critical to managing evolving threats efficiently and effectively. 13:36.260 --> 13:40.180 Wherever warranted, a radar optical jammer system, 13:40.180 --> 13:42.720 stuff on a stick, is the core defense. 13:42.740 --> 13:48.700 Such a platform is anchored with the radar system, typically a $400,000 to few million 13:48.700 --> 13:52.940 dollar investment per position, depending on the range of the equipment. 13:52.940 --> 13:58.220 Where that cost isn't justified, distributed systems can help but not completely replace 13:58.220 --> 13:59.540 the capability. 14:00.100 --> 14:05.400 While these basic systems remain fundamental to the defense core, that central point, as 14:05.400 --> 14:10.820 a line-of-sight viewshed, there will be significantly compromised by rough terrain or buildings. 14:10.980 --> 14:13.840 Neither radar nor cameras can see through hills. 14:14.120 --> 14:19.760 The command system should be able to usefully integrate additional signal sources and control 14:19.760 --> 14:22.160 additional mitigation effects. 14:22.160 --> 14:25.780 Some sense modalities are intrinsically short-range. 14:25.780 --> 14:30.580 Acoustic signals are not extractable by any technical means beyond about one or two kilometers 14:31.180 --> 14:35.480 due to basic physical limits like Shannon's law and thermal noise. 14:35.820 --> 14:42.920 Common ISR-RF signatures, similarly, disappear into a fog of legitimate radio traffic after 14:42.920 --> 14:46.420 a few hundred meters to at most a few kilometers. 14:46.420 --> 14:53.640 Therefore, short-range field-deployed sensor node meshes are, I believe, going to be increasingly 14:53.640 --> 14:58.480 critical for reliable detection of low-signature incoming threats. 14:58.740 --> 15:05.000 The Zvook project in Ukraine is a good example, and has won deserved recognition with tens 15:05.000 --> 15:11.020 of thousands of distributed acoustic sensors listening for drone engine sounds and reporting 15:11.020 --> 15:15.140 detections back to core defenses and to likely targets. 15:15.140 --> 15:19.920 So what do you do when you detect an incoming, possibly armed drone, other than shut down 15:19.920 --> 15:25.200 critical systems and warn personnel over the PA to shelter in place immediately? 15:25.400 --> 15:31.600 Where jammers fail, intercept drones, explosive or simple impact, are a good balance between 15:31.600 --> 15:38.180 the various critical metrics of risk, cost, range, and probability of intercept, despite 15:38.180 --> 15:41.740 fundamental limitations and operational risks. 15:41.740 --> 15:45.720 The Sting-2 from Ukraine is a good reference example. 15:45.860 --> 15:51.360 Optical jammers, lasers that dazzle, blind, or even damage the optics of vision tracking 15:51.360 --> 15:57.580 and FPV drones are far less expensive and far more exportable than big honkin' lasers, 15:57.580 --> 16:03.580 those with enough power to cause thermal mechanical failure or material degradation, and are comparatively 16:03.580 --> 16:09.560 cheap and exportable and light enough to ride on most robust camera system PTZ platforms 16:09.560 --> 16:11.340 for targeting. 16:11.340 --> 16:14.640 Fiber controlled drones are already in theater. 16:14.880 --> 16:19.620 Hot nichrome wires and mechanical capture devices can break fiber links as the fiber 16:19.620 --> 16:23.260 settles on the mechanism after the drone flies over. 16:23.260 --> 16:28.040 They should be considered as basic as mechanical fencing for access control and deployed on 16:28.040 --> 16:34.140 a similar plan to cut fiber targeting links with as much standoff as geography allows. 16:35.120 --> 16:40.800 A hybrid layered defense has the best chance of success now and into the future as drones 16:40.800 --> 16:42.460 continue to evolve. 16:42.860 --> 16:47.860 The critical takeaway from this data dense slide is that drones started as a game changing 16:47.860 --> 16:52.920 revolutionary technology, but as they've become crucial to modern warfare, that rate 16:52.920 --> 16:58.960 of change has accelerated exponentially across the whole range of drone, counter-drone, and 16:58.960 --> 17:05.060 counter-counter-drone technologies, with extraordinary innovation rates coming out of Russia, China, 17:05.060 --> 17:06.640 and especially Ukraine. 17:07.290 --> 17:10.680 These technologies are proliferating out of theater. 17:10.700 --> 17:16.520 Already four-channel CRPA and ultra-long-range fiber has been found in use in the CENTCOM 17:16.520 --> 17:20.940 theater, both in the Middle East and in various conflicts in Africa. 17:21.200 --> 17:25.980 The rate of spread is also accelerating, as just about everyone realizes how effective 17:25.980 --> 17:29.160 and rebalancing this technology is. 17:29.400 --> 17:34.120 Keeping critical infrastructure and personnel safe from attacks where antagonists may be 17:34.120 --> 17:39.620 operating from thousands of kilometers away, and even a single disgruntled individual can 17:39.620 --> 17:45.020 avail themselves of lethal, destructive, long-range capabilities, is the sort of challenge that 17:45.020 --> 17:47.220 should keep us all on our toes. 17:47.440 --> 17:52.260 This is already a completely different game, and it is just barely started. 18:20.660 --> 18:22.060 You can reach David Gessel at dg@brt.llc